I have trained in different martial arts and various forms of self-defense since the 1970s. However, from the early 1980's up until today I have been a student of Hakka Mantis ( Initially, I was taught by a student of Sifu GinFoonMark in the early 1980s. In 2000, I became a video correspondence student of Sifu Hagood. The video correspondence program was terminated after Sifu Hagood moved to China. Therefore I traveled from New Jersey to train under Sifu Louie Jack Man somewhere between 2001-2003 in Philadephia, PA . Sifu Louie was still at the school but no longer teaching students. However, his top student was instructing so I trained under him for that duration. I have remained one of Sifu Hagood's many correspondence students ever since 2000.